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Post Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 pm

Re: Friction-Fence Locks

Manipulated quite well, although the order of indication was W2->W3->W1. Again a nice graph because I again watched TV.

There are two mysteries with this lock.
1) The lock had 6 spacer washers, on each side of the flies one. With that many washers and a properly installed C clip the wheels won't turn.
2) I filed down a standard S&G change key. When I use the key with cover removed everything is fine. With a closed lock I can't turn any wheel centers. I think the reason is, that the key is tilted a bit with the cover installed.
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Post Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:29 pm

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I have tried to find a CP on my golden Mosler with the help of a contact mike. No chance. The only thing I hear are the gears. It is to well lubed.
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Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:41 pm

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I am at the moment in Vienna and got here this nice lock. The dial is a Yale, the lock is a friction frnce rotobolt, which looks like a Mosler to me. I don't think the two are a team. Again, I can't feel a CP, but can hear loud and clear the gears. Dialing direction is RLRL and R to stop. With this dial splined at 50 it needs to be mounted LH.
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Post Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:06 pm

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I think it is a Yale 027 which is the same as a Mosler 15.
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:13 am

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Actually the spline key sits at 10. There is a pin going through dial base and spindle base, so I thought I could remove that pin and turn the spindle over for RH mounting. The pin came out, but the spindle doesn't move a hair.
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:16 am

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Great find there Martin. I agree, looks like an 027.

Wish I could get a hold of more locks along these lines...
but they sometimes fetch a higher price than I'd like.

The last one I was watching went for a little over a $100. I couldn't say if this is a fair or average price, or if there was a bidding war going on over this particular one. I dunno. But I'll keep watching. Keep waiting. Congrats on acquiring that one!

On the final turn right... where does it come to a solid stop?
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:23 am

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I got this lock as a gift. So I can't really complain about the price.

LH I can dial exactly to 50 and then open by turning right with a solid stop at 90.

Do you know the difference between 026 and 027?
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:02 pm

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MartinHewitt wrote:Do you know the difference between 026 and 027?

No, I'm not sure.
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:37 pm

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MartinHewitt wrote:Do you know the difference between 026 and 027?


026 lock case is black enamel over cast iron.
027 lock case is satin finished cast bronze.
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:50 pm

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According to McOmie the 027 has cast iron. If the case material is the only difference, that it would be the 027 according to McOmie and 026 according to you. A difficult decision.

Does have the number of wheels an influence on the number?
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:08 pm

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I would trust the manufacturer.
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Post Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:46 pm

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Great! Thanks! So it definitely is a 026.
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Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:44 am

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Really great article, and as usual great photos!
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Post Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:45 am

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Thank you. And welcome to the forum! This is an insanely wonderful place.
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Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:04 pm

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Thank you! I really enjoy anything to do with locksmithing but I really like safes and vaults the most. I always have since I was a kid. I just started learning to Manipulate my S&G 6730 and graphing it. I need to teach my son to change the combination so I can do it in the blind as much as I can. It is a cutaway lock so if I get too stumped I can cheat. haha It is nice to find a place to talk to people about this kinda thing because no one that I know has the slightest clue about anything in this field. There seems to be no end to the information just on safe locks alone.
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