Re: AMSEC CE1814 with S&G lock
MartinHewitt wrote:So your first and your last graphs are AWLs, correct? They really do not have much in common.
Correct. The first and last graphs are both AWL. I do agree, I struggle to find much in common between them. I attribute much of the lack of consistency to my poor technique. I need to be firm enough to confidently and fully touch the CP each time, but also gentle enough not to go past it.
I did notice the spot around L45. It is one of the few places that appear on both graphs. I will pursue that further.
I consider a clockwise motion as "to the right". And a counter-clockwise motion as "to the left". If I had x-ray vision, and could look through the door of the safe as I sit in front of it, I would see the RCP on the right hand side. I should be able to feel the nose touch the RCP if I start in the middle of the drive cam gate, and turn to the left (CCW).
I believe the right contact point is around 4. I believe the left contact point is around 88. This was slightly confusing to me, as I had expected both to be closer towards zero. I also expected them to be closer to each other. The LCP is extremely difficult for me to feel. When I am able to find it, the location is almost always exactly at 88. It does not seem to vary, even in places where the RCP has moved closer towards zero. The RCP is much easier to detect. It is around 4 (+/- 1/8) for many locations. It will drop as low as 3.25. I believe these drops to be a gate (either real or false). Perhaps instead of trying to graph numbers for this CP, I should simply note "about 4" or "noticeably less than 4" for each wheel position. This might relieve me of some of the stress of trying to read exact numbers, and allow me to focus more on precisely and accurately stopping at the CP (neither before nor after it).
I've also felt the CPs on a 6700 series S&G lock, and they seem to be in somewhat different locations. The LCP on my 6700 lock is around 7, and the RCP is around 14. I know the combination for my 6700, and I am able to feel the gap between LCP and RCP become narrower when I dial in one of the three numbers. I will pull the back of this lock to view the lever, nose, and drive cam. This will help me confirm that what I feel agrees with where I believe the parts to be.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, when you say I may be able to feel a false gate between LCP and RCP. Do you mean the nose of the lever can physically contact a false gate, and that sensation might be felt? It is my understanding the nose only contacts the gate on the drive cam. The fence might drop into a false gate (if that particular wheel happens to be aligned) and I might sense a shift in one or both CPs (caused by the slightly lowered fence). But I would not expect to feel the nose actually touching any part of any false gate directly. Please educate me if I am mistaken.
I'll plow ahead with that L45. And perhaps I'll try to produce a third AWL graph, and see if it agrees with either of my first two. Thanks again for all your guidance.
Attached is the same graph of AWL as shown just a few posts back, along with the corresponding high/low tests for L45.