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Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:12 am
by jruther2
BIG THANKS to Tooly for sending this lock to me!
This is a lock that was custom pinned by FarmerFreak, sent to Tooly, then sent to me. It has had some really cool modifications made to it and was a very fun pick! So, here are the pics...
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The chambers in the plug are threaded...
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The key pins are serrated. Also, notice the ASSA spools and the small springs that go through the brass inserts which are captive in the bible and are also spring loaded by the larger springs above them.
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In the next picture the front chamber is loaded with everything except the driver pin...you can see how far out of the bible the skinny spring sits. For demonstration, the second chamber has a driver resting on the captive brass insert without the skinny spring that would normally be driving it.
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Here is the key as well as the Peterson Pry Bar and home brew laminated hook I used to open it with.
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Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:22 am
by ChemicalRobot
Very nice! You deserve this:
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Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:05 am
by elbowmacaroni
Wow that looks nasty! Nice lock porn man! Stickified...

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:21 am
by the lockpickkid
That is a crazy looking thing for sure, how hard was it to pick?

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:30 am
by ChicoSlim803
wicked. I like

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:44 am
by pjzstones
wow

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:07 am
by awol70
awesome! i love frankenlocks!!! great stuff.

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:30 pm
by jruther2
Thanks for the kind words everyone.

the lockpickkid wrote:That is a crazy looking thing for sure, how hard was it to pick?

It was a real pain at first. Those spools alone are tough and with the extra mods that been made to the lock it poses a real challenge just because it feels very different than a 'normal' lock. It took several times picking it before I got real efficient at it.

awol70 wrote:awesome! i love frankenlocks!!! great stuff.

This is one heck of a frankenlock, FarmerFreak obviously put a lot of time into this one. He has quite the mind for changing things up when it comes to locks.

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:28 am
by dgtlcrack
That's a cool idea, threading the top of the plug's holes to catch the serrated and spooled pins. I'm going to have to try that... What I don't like Is the extra set of interior drilled top pins with rear KIK springs inside them, which is obviously pointless to any aspect of cylinder security. It looks cool but does nothing special. lol....

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:02 pm
by jruther2
dgtlcrack wrote:That's a cool idea, threading the top of the plug's holes to catch the serrated and spooled pins. I'm going to have to try that...

Yeah, it definitely make it interesting...lots of clicks. Its especially hard if you don't know to start with that they are threaded lol!

dgtlcrack wrote:What I don't like Is the extra set of interior drilled top pins with rear KIK springs inside them, which is obviously pointless to any aspect of cylinder security. It looks cool but does nothing special. lol....

They actually do affect picking. Look at the fourth picture down in my post (The one that has the cylinder in the vice.) The drivers meet up with the spring loaded brass inserts before they pass the shear line. So, at first only the small spring is resisting the lifting of the driver but shortly thereafter it comes in contact with the brass insert which is driven by the bigger spring which adds more resistance. Make sense?

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:49 pm
by Farmerfreak
jruther2 wrote: dgtlcrack wrote:What I don't like Is the extra set of interior drilled top pins with rear KIK springs inside them, which is obviously pointless to any aspect of cylinder security. It looks cool but does nothing special. lol....


They actually do affect picking. Look at the fourth picture down in my post (The one that has the cylinder in the vice.) The drivers meet up with the spring loaded brass inserts before they pass the shear line. So, at first only the small spring is resisting the lifting of the driver but shortly thereafter it comes in contact with the brass insert which is driven by the bigger spring which adds more resistance. Make sense?


What jruther2 wrote is just a side benefit. They are in there specifically to stop bumping/pickgunning attempts. Since you would hit the key pin which in turn shoots the first driver pin upwards. It then hits a larger pin and transfers whatever motion it has to the larger driver pin while the first driver pins starts to be pushed back down. (all while the first driver pin stays blocking the shear line) ...Does that make sense. If it doesn't, I blame it on posting first thing in the morning. :)

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:52 pm
by dgtlcrack
Oh I missed that and also I never bump locks or use a pick gun ... lol. Well that's a neat idea regardless, now it makes sense why it's done. good work man.

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:59 am
by LocksmithArmy
wooo

what a PITA

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when u want it back lol

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 4:31 am
by elbowmacaroni
Good job LSA! That looks like a tough sonofabitch!

Re: Custom Pinned Schlage KIK

PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:30 pm
by jruther2
LocksmithArmy wrote:wooo

what a PITA

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when u want it back lol


Nice work! This lock would be a good one for your youtube debut... :-D