Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:12 pm
The Unpicked Locks Thread
I want to see your unpicked locks. I have been amassing a nice intimidating pile of confidence-shattering locks that I'd like to share with you all. Some of these are just plain evil or have extremely inconvenient keyways.
Please post pictures and a short summary of why you can't open it!
ASSA Twin 6000 Ruko 3 Shrouded
Thanks macgng for getting this for me. This twin shows some very odd behavior I've never seen before, about 50% of the time the sidepins will completely freeze up even when all tension is released. The other 50% there is one last binding side pin that is biting so hard that its impossible to lift.
ASSA Twin V-10 Moguls
The infamous moguls... these are just crazy. The housing dampens feedback and I have just been unable to open these at all.
Medeco Biaxial Metrolock
Driverless sidebar lock from Medeco. Got this one from Oldfast and just haven't been able to open it at all despite the very low-cut bitting. The keypins are of the serrated kind with false gates making them a real pain.
Kaba 8
I can't set more than two or three pins due to the ease of oversetting pins. Its pretty impossible with a short hook or gem. The pins are really crowded inside the keyway oriented all in the top. There are 10 pins, 4 on each side and 2 on the top. The four pins on each side are interlaced (alternating).
ASSA Twin 6000
More ASSA twins... these two are really fucking evil. I've spent as much as an hour straight on one of them fighting a sidepin that once again bites too hard to be lifted safetly. I've come to accept that some twins just fly open like cheap sluts... and others will never give it up.
BiLock Generation 1
Sent to me by s1deshowmick. I broke the warding off of this while trying to pick it and now I can't tension it so it has sat unpicked for a while now. Really old and grimy inside doesn't do much to help picking attempts.
ASSA Twin 6000 Ruko 2
Sent to me by chris... another evil, old, wornout twin that won't give up the goods. Another issue of sidepins biting too hard.
Dorma / Trioving / ASSA
What we have here from left to right:
1. Dorma (sent by falcon)
2. Trioving (model unknown, sent by falcon)
3. ASSA (model unknown, sent by mister_sour)
4. ASSA 700 (sent by Ashman02 of youtube)
The middle two locks are the exact same locking mechanism and similar keyway. There are 6 top pins with countermilling, and sliders controlling a sidebar. The sliders are a nightmare, way worse than the Scorpion. The sliders aren't spring-loaded and will not drop back down when tension is dropped making it a huge PITA. The Trioving has 10 sliders, and the ASSA has 4.
The Dorma has an incredibly evil keyway with spooled keypins. I haven't quite found a pick that will fit in it yet.
The ASSA 700 is probably the most aggrivating lock I've ever encountered. It just won't open. I know exactly whats happening, I'm lifting a spooled keypin too high early on the picking process and its sitting at the shearline giving false sets and never letting the plug turn. I think theres a maximum depth cut in there. It feels like multiple pins will bind at once, and its pretty hard to differentiate between lifting a keypin through the shearline and setting a normal driver. Maybe one day...
TrioVing showing 10 sliders:
Vingcard 7-Pin Super Long Mortise
Sent by falcon. Another extremely evil keyway/bitting combo combined with
make this lots of fun (or not). It looks like this lock has some kind of blockout feature.
ASSA 600 Euro
This lock goes into the what is probably the biggest false set I've ever seen and freezes up completly. I'm guessing it has very deep countermilling. I've tried picking this lock all different ways possible on both sides and both directions with no luck. Its quite possible I'm not lifting that last pin high enough. The keyway is NOT fun.
"Drunken Spools"
FarmerFreak made this lock. I can't even begin to describe the hatred I have for it. He added a second false shearline in the plug and used double stacked schlage T-pins that give wicked false sets. Maybe one day. We all hate you FF!
Please post pictures and a short summary of why you can't open it!
ASSA Twin 6000 Ruko 3 Shrouded
Thanks macgng for getting this for me. This twin shows some very odd behavior I've never seen before, about 50% of the time the sidepins will completely freeze up even when all tension is released. The other 50% there is one last binding side pin that is biting so hard that its impossible to lift.
ASSA Twin V-10 Moguls
The infamous moguls... these are just crazy. The housing dampens feedback and I have just been unable to open these at all.
Medeco Biaxial Metrolock
Driverless sidebar lock from Medeco. Got this one from Oldfast and just haven't been able to open it at all despite the very low-cut bitting. The keypins are of the serrated kind with false gates making them a real pain.
Kaba 8
I can't set more than two or three pins due to the ease of oversetting pins. Its pretty impossible with a short hook or gem. The pins are really crowded inside the keyway oriented all in the top. There are 10 pins, 4 on each side and 2 on the top. The four pins on each side are interlaced (alternating).
ASSA Twin 6000
More ASSA twins... these two are really fucking evil. I've spent as much as an hour straight on one of them fighting a sidepin that once again bites too hard to be lifted safetly. I've come to accept that some twins just fly open like cheap sluts... and others will never give it up.
BiLock Generation 1
Sent to me by s1deshowmick. I broke the warding off of this while trying to pick it and now I can't tension it so it has sat unpicked for a while now. Really old and grimy inside doesn't do much to help picking attempts.
ASSA Twin 6000 Ruko 2
Sent to me by chris... another evil, old, wornout twin that won't give up the goods. Another issue of sidepins biting too hard.
Dorma / Trioving / ASSA
What we have here from left to right:
1. Dorma (sent by falcon)
2. Trioving (model unknown, sent by falcon)
3. ASSA (model unknown, sent by mister_sour)
4. ASSA 700 (sent by Ashman02 of youtube)
The middle two locks are the exact same locking mechanism and similar keyway. There are 6 top pins with countermilling, and sliders controlling a sidebar. The sliders are a nightmare, way worse than the Scorpion. The sliders aren't spring-loaded and will not drop back down when tension is dropped making it a huge PITA. The Trioving has 10 sliders, and the ASSA has 4.
The Dorma has an incredibly evil keyway with spooled keypins. I haven't quite found a pick that will fit in it yet.
The ASSA 700 is probably the most aggrivating lock I've ever encountered. It just won't open. I know exactly whats happening, I'm lifting a spooled keypin too high early on the picking process and its sitting at the shearline giving false sets and never letting the plug turn. I think theres a maximum depth cut in there. It feels like multiple pins will bind at once, and its pretty hard to differentiate between lifting a keypin through the shearline and setting a normal driver. Maybe one day...
TrioVing showing 10 sliders:
Vingcard 7-Pin Super Long Mortise
Sent by falcon. Another extremely evil keyway/bitting combo combined with
make this lots of fun (or not). It looks like this lock has some kind of blockout feature.ASSA 600 Euro
This lock goes into the what is probably the biggest false set I've ever seen and freezes up completly. I'm guessing it has very deep countermilling. I've tried picking this lock all different ways possible on both sides and both directions with no luck. Its quite possible I'm not lifting that last pin high enough. The keyway is NOT fun.
"Drunken Spools"
FarmerFreak made this lock. I can't even begin to describe the hatred I have for it. He added a second false shearline in the plug and used double stacked schlage T-pins that give wicked false sets. Maybe one day. We all hate you FF!
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The code is hidden in the tumblers. One position opens the lock, another position opens one of these doors...
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This thread gets me awfully excited! It reminds me that I've yet to even SCRATCH the surface!! Nice post.
Would love to give it a try.
