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SARGENT

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:43 pm
by jeffmoss26
Everyone who knows me on here knows that Sargent is my FAVORITE lock. I have a TON of them...different styles/functions/keyways.
Here is an example of each kind!
Mortise cylinder (L) Rim Cylinder (R)
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2 different styles of Key in Knob...Sargent makes many styles of knobs and levers, they all use a slightly different cylinder
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6300 series removable core (one lobe larger than the other), 5100 series removable core (both lobes the same size), Sargent restricted keyway SFIC
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Older padlock which basically can not be rekeyed (without drilling out each pin cover), new style padlock with uses a KIK with housing
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Keso mortise
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Sargent Signature KIK
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There are several levels of high security:
Degree, which is similar to Medeco M3; Keso F1; Signature; XC; and Keso.

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:54 pm
by Alaphablue
Thanks man I have never picked a or owned a Sargent . I did not know there are that many different kinds are they difficult to pick that keso is purdy . I would love to do a trade some day how hard are those kesos to get ? I got some scorpions mortise.

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:23 am
by jeffmoss26
I am not the best at picking, but depending on how they are pinned, they can be fairly easy, or extremely tough to pick (just ask Cyrano). The tolerances seem to be pretty good throughout.
I got my Keso from eBay. Every so often I see Keso padlocks, with and without keys on there. Just gotta keep looking!

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:33 am
by Oldfast
Thanks for the 'show-n-tell' Jeff! "TONS"? I maybe see some trading in my future. lol

Do Sargents generally have sec-pins? If so... what types?

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:01 am
by jeffmoss26
I have never seen a security pin in a Sargent. The Signature and higher level locks have sidebars and the like, though.

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:30 am
by jeffmoss26
I will update this post tonight with pictures of my Sargent pin and parts kits along with some rekeying tools!

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:03 pm
by macgng
here's some sargent stuff i have:

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Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:33 pm
by cyrano138
jeffmoss26 wrote:I am not the best at picking, but depending on how they are pinned, they can be fairly easy, or extremely tough to pick (just ask Cyrano). The tolerances seem to be pretty good throughout.
I got my Keso from eBay. Every so often I see Keso padlocks, with and without keys on there. Just gotta keep looking!


He is not lying. Some of them will make you hate life; others will pop open in a very satisfying way without too much trouble.

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:33 pm
by NNFAK
Is that a new Sargent Keso on the right there Macgng? They still make them?

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:06 am
by jeffmoss26
Here is more stuff. On the left is what remains of the Sargent pin kit I got from ebay last week. It got all kinds of messed up in shipping, the pins got mixed together and there was no way I was gonna sort through them. I kept all the retaining clips, springs, etc. On the right is a pin kit I put together with top, bottom, and master pins. Then we have 2 plug followers, a key gauge, a plug holder made from an old mortise cylinder, and a staking tool for the top pin strips.
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Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:11 am
by macgng
NNFAK wrote:Is that a new Sargent Keso on the right there Macgng? They still make them?



That is a brand new in box Sargent KESO. All the padlocks are keyed alike and I have several keys. I was going to get more keys made but it's expensive and no one can guarantee they will work, so I gave up on that project and decide to sell the extras.

The ilco blank is KE4 if anyone was wondering.

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:25 am
by femurat
Nice collection guys :mrgreen:

Thanks for the blank reference macgng, now I know what to look for :razz:

Cheers :)

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:21 pm
by falcon
Hey jeff
Is this relevant to your interest?
Do you know anything about these padlocks?
Just asking because i know you are a sargent guy :razz:

Some writing on the bottom of It says: patd june 1810 and 1912


Nice collection btw

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:22 pm
by jeffmoss26
I would need to see pictures. I am guessing by the age it's a lever padlock, which I know nothing about :/

Re: SARGENT

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:26 pm
by falcon
Hey jeff
Is this relevant to your interest?
Do you know anything about these padlocks?
Just asking because i know you are a sargent guy :razz:

Some writing on the bottom of It says: patd june 1810 and 1912


Nice collection btw