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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:34 pm

Lever locks gutted

A French forum I visit, has a thread where a lock is given a post mortum, and you can see all the internals, and perhaps get a feel for whats inside. Heres a few pictures of some of my locks.
Feel free to add your own lever lock innards.

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Antique lock no makers name.
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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:35 pm

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Ratner safe lock.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:38 pm

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SMP safe lock.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:40 pm

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Made by the famous Mr Hobbs.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:42 pm

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A Tann (not sure model number)

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:43 pm

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A Chubb
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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:45 pm

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UK post boxes, one dead bolt. The other slam latch.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:47 pm

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Joseph bates safe lock.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:10 pm

Re: Lever locks gutted

Yale safe deposit lock (this particular one was one I made keys for from a Fare Collection Box).

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Horn plate removed.

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The parts related to the guard key:

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How they interact (not including how they interact with the renter key levers, which they do)

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How the renter key components interact. The comb-like structure is how the renter key is programmed in - hand change.

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Some of the levers, the parts that act as stumps for the gates, and the spacers...

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Don't have that particular lock anymore, but have another one that is slightly different.

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:15 pm

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Do you want to include lever lock gut shots from padlocks?

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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:29 pm

Re: Lever locks gutted

Is that Hobbs one powder-proof? Curious shaping of the cutouts for the innards.

That Chubb one, what do you make of that front lever? I have a Chubb that has something similar. The key never contacts it, it is the curtain what moves it. The stump extends up next to it and there is a tooth that blocks said stump until the curtain has rotated around enough to fall into another little cutout and thus unblock the stump again.
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Post Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:47 pm

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i've got a load to photograph for this and some notes to go along. nice one ratlock for starting this, we need to meet up and have a safe lock day together soon mate.
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Post Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:33 am

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Hi @GWiens2001 Nice pictures. Any lever locks welcome. Keep em coming.

Hi @huxleypig. The Chubb safe lock in the picture has a curtain to stop guys like me sticking a 2 in 1 in. The curtain in that lock,(and in the post box locks)turns freely.
Its the key that throws the bolt on them. The lever that sits on the curtain wheel acts like a spring catch to keep the curtain in place.
On the slam/latch post box it will only let you turn clockwise, not anti clockwise. I wonder if this is to stop you reading the back of the levers.?

If you look at the bottom lever in the Chubb safe lock picture (lever number 7) you will see a piece that sticks into and towards where the curtain is/would be.
This traps your pick wire going between 7 and 6. I had to thin, and shape the wire to get under it. Once the levers are up a little I was fine.

The Hobbs lock I cant tell you much about it other than It says Hobbs & Co London on it. I havent picked it yet, (still graphing comination locks), But after a quick look inside,
In the picture of the lock with the bolt part thrown you can see that lever 2 is sitting directly on top of the curtain wheel. Thats going to cause some problems.
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Hi @ Capt Dunc Any time your free, Im ready for some learning. I look forward to meeting up again, and picking your brain, as well as some locks.
Look forward to seeing your locks and post notes too.
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Post Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:51 am

Re: Lever locks gutted

That tooth is pretty cool. SO when raised it stops your pick from coming back to 'zero position' or does it trap it on that lever and stop you from coming back through the pack?

Here is what I mean by the Chubb with the tooth. See the little tooth on it that rides up and blocks the stump:

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I've done a fair amount of work with curtain locks! You can expect to see some pretty cool stuff for them in the near future. :cool:
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Post Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:45 am

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Some lever locks in koksa-wiki:

http://wiki.koksa.org/Belfry
http://wiki.koksa.org/EVU-Hangschloss_2
http://wiki.koksa.org/Burg_W%C3%A4chter ... angschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Berliner_Durchste ... schloss%29
http://wiki.koksa.org/Besatzungsschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubb_110
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubb_mit_Glocke
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubb-Schloss_%22Columbus%22
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubbschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubbschloss_mit_Innenknauf
http://wiki.koksa.org/Chubbschloss_mit_Kern_1
http://wiki.koksa.org/CONTI-Chubbschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/ELZETT_700
http://wiki.koksa.org/FELCO-Chubbschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Feldhahn
http://wiki.koksa.org/Gleisanlagen-_und_Signalschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/GUARDIAN
http://wiki.koksa.org/HUTRA_Zusatzschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/IDEAL-Schloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/JVA-Zellenschloss_1
http://wiki.koksa.org/JVA-Zellenschloss ... _System%29
http://wiki.koksa.org/JVA-Zellenschloss ... t_Tegel%29
http://wiki.koksa.org/Keilsperrerschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Keilsperrschloss_BKS
http://wiki.koksa.org/Postfachschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Postfachschloss_2
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schliessfachschloss_Mauer_78054
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schlie%C3%9Ffach-Schloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schlie%C3%9Ffach-Schloss_2
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schlie%C3%9Ffach-Schloss_3
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schlie%C3%9Ffach-Schloss_4
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schlie%C3%9Ffachschloss_5
http://wiki.koksa.org/Burmeister-Tresorschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/Cawi
http://wiki.koksa.org/Cawi_Optima_2648
http://wiki.koksa.org/FAS_vds_Klasse1_verstellbar
http://wiki.koksa.org/Mauer_Variator
http://wiki.koksa.org/Praktiker_Budget
http://wiki.koksa.org/Schweres_SSF-Tresorschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/SSF
http://wiki.koksa.org/SSF_Doppelbartschloss
http://wiki.koksa.org/STUV_VdS1
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