Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:17 pm by Jimmy-slim-smith
Hey,,,,what you have there is the newer style pin ball lock, it is tubular but it has some diffrent security fetures with it........like if you look into the keyway you will notice the standord style tubular pins,,,,,,along with that you will notice that there are two/three ball bearings on the iside of the keyway,,,,,thats a tough lock to open with no keys, I used to have a box full of them,
the key,,,,,,its looks like a standord tubular key but in the area between the cuts on the tip of the key and the key bow there are dimples.....some times two other times three depending on the security level in the lock, these dimples activated the ball bearings inside the keyway and are another security feature....
as far a picing it,, its possable,,, its hard but we all no its possable,,
now making a key for it,,,,oh boy your in for some work, it cant be impressioned,,,,or decoded that i no of,,
if you need to makea key for it then you are going to go through
hell,,,,lol...seriously,,,,,but,,,what i would do is find out how many they have,,,,{all keyed alike,,this is were hobby vs real locksmith comes in,, a hobby guy would spend years trying to figure it out and make a key....but as a locksmith i look at the $ signs,,,,,,and....say if you were to sell the customer new locks you coudl make some money,,,,then you could drill out all there other locks,,,,get a little labor in there,,,and then install all there new locks. sounds like a productive couple hours ot me...lol..
Oh and for some reason i dont think you will be able to use a tubular saw bit to drill out the locks becuase you still have the ball bearings locking it as well as the pins.
I personally believe this is a pretty good lock as far as tubular locks, I dont care much for tubular locks beucase all the pins are exposed and able to to be seen but this one with the extra security feature...there tough,,,,
no tubular lock tool will work,
no much help but,,,,,,theres my 2 cents,
If you cant find a way to tention the inner cylinder attempt to drill a 1/16th hole in face of the lock,,,next to the keyhole,,,on the inner cylinder then use that small hole for a place to hold tention, ....