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Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

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Post Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:36 pm

Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

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Ihave a number of these frustrating mofos and they are already riding me to a DEEP mental false set...
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Post Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

7 pins and SCD mark, so probably it's ASSA 700
Albeit not with one of the usual profiles. It's also somewhat weird that it has the newer tailpiece design.



See viewtopic.php?f=88&t=11910 for this family of locks. Lots of fun!

They look custom pinned though - the handwriting on the side is a bit of a giveaway :) - so hard to know exactly what they contain.
Probably they were part of a system at some point.
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Post Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:20 am

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

Patrick Star wrote:7 pins and SCD mark, so probably it's ASSA 700
Albeit not with one of the usual profiles. It's also somewhat weird that it has the newer tailpiece design.



See viewtopic.php?f=88&t=11910 for this family of locks. Lots of fun!

They look custom pinned though - the handwriting on the side is a bit of a giveaway :) - so hard to know exactly what they contain.
Probably they were part of a system at some point.


Mystery managed - the writing on the side is mine to be able to reference the cylinder back to the original door it belonged to within the building...

The engraved code data,however, is the product of the original locksmith service who installed the system.

The cylinders ARE custom combinated, and have been previously pinned (there is an 'X' d out different code on the cylinder)...

How does the spring -locking screw in the back of the cylinders come out? I did attempt to use a flat head screwy but it just seems to be burning the screw head to a gripless blob...
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Post Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:26 am

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

castle 2 wrote:The engraved code data,however, is the product of the original locksmith service who installed the system.

It's not something resembling any ASSA keycode I've seen though.
They are usually #XX-##### (where # is a number and X is a letter) or XXXXXX

How does the spring -locking screw in the back of the cylinders come out? I did attempt to use a flat head screwy but it just seems to be burning the screw head to a gripless blob...

On this lock it most likely doesn't, since it looks like the pin chambers are plugged from the top.
On locks where it actually works it's just a long screw that threads into the front of the lock and keeps the springs/pins in their places.
So you'd just unscrew it and then slide it backwards as you dump each chamber.
Never had any difficulty removing it. At most a bit of gunk (added at factory to mark that it's still factory pinned) to remove from the head first.
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:57 am

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

I have seen a video animation on YouTube showing the screw being put in from the back
https://youtu.be/ey1-BGNKIJY
The full codes that are engraved on the cylinders start with TL xxxxxx I assumed that the tl was the keyway profile identification cuz the cylinders i have with UK XXXXXX are the (r)U-k keyblank...
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Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:35 pm

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

castle 2 wrote:I have seen a video animation on YouTube showing the screw being put in from the back
https://youtu.be/ey1-BGNKIJY

Yeah - except from the photos it seems your pin chambers are plugged from the top (like they would be if it was a cylinder without the pin-removal screw)...

This is what a cylinder where you can actually remove the pins using the screw looks like:
cylinder_top.png



The full codes that are engraved on the cylinders start with TL xxxxxx I assumed that the tl was the keyway profile identification cuz the cylinders i have with UK XXXXXX are the (r)U-k keyblank...

I only saw the "LSS55 SE 47" on your photos. TL ###### sounds more like proper keycodes. I don't recognize the profile or the code though.


Do they have any torpedo key pins, by the way?
It can be somewhat hard to tell depending on the bitting, but if you're lucky it'd confirmed that it's pinned somewhat like you'd expect a normal ASSA 700 to be.

How do they act when picking? Anything like described in my guide?
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:56 pm

Re: Need help identifying the Assa cylinder in here...

Ah sorry, it's not 700, it's 600.
I mistook the drill protection pin at the front for an actual pin *hits my head on the desk*
That explains the tailpiece as well...

Then you probably don't have the same style pins as ASSA 700. Instead you are likely to have the newer-style ASSA security pins (double spools or whatever they're called).
They don't act the same at all - instead they give a very subtle false set.

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