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Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:13 pm
by Petrolhead
Ive heard that Assa D12 was picked, there where a video on the web, but not there anymore.
D12 with the extra side pins.
Anyone have seen it?
Why am asking is becasue I have a few ones, and not even close to picking it ..... yet =P

Re: Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:46 pm
by Riyame
I believe that was Xeo that had the video up of him picking one.

Re: Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:24 pm
by Petrolhead
Thanks, didint find anything here on a Xeo, but I keep my eyes open =)

Re: Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:34 pm
by Farmerfreak
Xeo is a moderator on this site. He is very skilled lock picker who used to have a bunch of videos on Youtube. But the videos all seem to have disappeared.. So the answer is yes they can be picked. It isn't going to be easy.

Re: Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:19 am
by Riyame
Farmerfreak wrote:Xeo is a moderator on this site. He is very skilled lock picker who used to have a bunch of videos on Youtube. But the videos all seem to have disappeared.. So the answer is yes they can be picked. It isn't going to be easy.



Actually he is an admin :P He set all his videos to private a few months ago(?).

Re: Assa d12 picked?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:02 am
by Patrick Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-3P0yxLZeQ
This is the same lock, just under a different name (in Norway it's sold under the name Trioving instead of ASSA, just like they use Ruko in Denmark).

Seems that they don't really have much in the way of security pins and no countermilling, unlike traditional ASSAs. Instead they simply rely on the profile being a bitch.
They do have ASSA :dblspool: driver pins but I can't imagine those doing a lot without matching countermilling/threading of the core.
I have one but haven't had much luck with it due to evil bitting (first pin being a very deep cut so hard to access the rest when the profile has an almost 90 degree twist...)

They don't have side pins, by the way. The pins above the cuts on the side are simply long enough to reach down to them (and thus that part of the "normal" code isn't relevant). I imagine if you mix d12 and d13 (which doesn't have the side cuts or long pins) in the same system you can use this for a sort of masterkeying where the d13 keys only open the d13 locks and the d12 keys open both.

PS. Watching the video again apparently it's a d13 and not a d12. But not really much of a difference when it comes to picking. Just have to poke in the bottom of the keyway as well.