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I found this on another lockpicking group but nobody seemed to no anything about it, i was wondering if you educated guys know anything more about this,,

It seems to be a medico pick of some kind around 10 years ago with a patent on it,

That is interesting. Looks like some kind of attempt to make a rotation-rake for rotating the pins into place?

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Reminded me something, in fact it's one of the patent drawings linked at the top of the page.

Cheers

It looks like the manual version of the electric Medeco pick. Probably only intended to be used in setting rotation, leaving normal picking to be done. I can't see this being overly effective as an L rake.

Gordon

It looks to be fairly ingenious. As I see it, two side-by-side blades work to rotate the pins. A better plan might be to have it designed low like the Tobias code setting keys so you don't disturb the pins on withdrawal. And to have only the end set up to rotate the pins one at a time so you can feel each pin set the sidebar. With the wide keyways on biaxial and M3 it should work pretty well.

GW - I haven't seen the medeco electric pick. Have you got a link?

Saw it mentioned with a picture here at KP.

Gordon

Thanks Guys thought i had seen it before but couldnt work it out , thanks for the heads up on a former post

If you look at the patent for the electric pick (link on the page you referenced) you will see that the above drawing is part of that pick, not a manual pick. If you look right to the end of the patent sketches you will see he suggests other attachments including brushes. There is even a picture of a key with brushes:

Ahh, thank you, escher7. I had not looked through the patent drawings on that other page. As they say, "You live, you learn."

It does look to be a practical manual code setting tool, though with the little time I have been able to devote to Medeco lately, I have been practicing the 'Xeo Method' (all rights reserved, yadda yadda yadda).

While my Medecoder works, I want to improve my skills with a hook. Then it won't matter if the pins are not broached. That said, making and playing with the Medecoder has helped my understanding of how little movement is needed to rotate the pins. As Xeo says, just bump it a little.

Gordon