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S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:21 pm
by Random
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So guys I picked this today and boy it's a huge lock.
I was taking to a retired rail guy, he stated that whenever these locks had problems which was very rare he would pop them open with a good wack of a track bar. Has anyone ever tried to brute force these things open? Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:47 am
by Papa Gleb
Highly doubt thats possible. Perhaps he tried that once in his life and it worked out so now he tells the story that is works all the time but did he mention the condition of that lock? Perhaps it was rusted to bits? The lockbutcher has one where the shackle busted in half, no it wasnt cut or sawed, it for some reason just busted apart.

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:57 am
by Korver15
I accidentally won one on ebay, hasnt come yet but I agree with Gleb, no way that someone consistently brutes these things open

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:11 pm
by MBI
Maybe he unlocked it and it was frozen shut and whacked it to dislodge whatever was keeping it closed.

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:25 pm
by Papa Gleb
I mean you holding one in hand should see that its not possible. The super thick shackle and locking balls plus this isnt a chines copy but a well made lock in the great US of A by a great S&G (solute)

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:56 pm
by Robotnik
Korver15 wrote:I accidentally won one on ebay...


I've done this way more than I'm comfortable admitting... :smile:

Agree about brute force of a locked Enviro being near-impossible. Spent half the weekend picking, disassembling, and filing a key for a 102. Gained a new appreciation for how robust these are. Seems like even if you were slamming it with track bar, you'd wedge those balls tighter against the shackle rather than compromise them.

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:38 pm
by Hugo Martel
The body is a bit brittle bosnianbill shot one with a 7.something NATO and it splitted in halves... :rifle1:
Hugo Martel :circlip:

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:41 pm
by Riyame
Hugo Martel wrote:The body is a bit brittle bosnianbill shot one with a 7.something NATO and it splitted in halves... :rifle1:
Hugo Martel :circlip:



That is because they use a sintered body. Basically metal powder that molded and then heated. The energy from the bullet fractured it into pieces.

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:34 pm
by twenglish 1
I posted this on my thread about these locks as I just received my first one, its a video of the testing they have done on it

https://youtu.be/zoEp4Mtt9Kw

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:48 pm
by Hugo Martel
I was not sure about what kind of metal was used. Thanks to point out!! they make power tools gears this way too I think

Hugo Martel :circlip:

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:52 pm
by Hugo Martel
Random wrote:
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Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?



Yes disolving the chain or the rivet into acid... LOL not the way you are looking for hen?? I dont see any way to remove it without cutting or drilling anything ... Sorry

Hugo Martel :circlip:

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:08 pm
by Random
Hugo Martel wrote:
Random wrote:
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Also is there a way to remove this chain without drilling the rivit or cutting the chain?



Yes disolving the chain or the rivet into acid... LOL not the way you are looking for hen?? I dont see any way to remove it without cutting or drilling anything ... Sorry

Hugo Martel :circlip:


I have tendency to ask a question already know the answer too just to see someone else's response.

Epic answer Hugo lol

Re: S&G Enviro stuff

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:10 pm
by Random
I saw one disassembled today, WOW thats some big balls. I feel he was fishing me a line.