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Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:16 pmby ChemicalRobot
mister sour wrote:I know, I'm getting picture happy but this photo shows something interesting. Notice the cut progressions?
Based on the picture, I've assigned letters to each cut so we can more easily look for patterns to possibly estimate missing key codes.
A = shallow
B = middle cut
C = deep cut
101: CAB
102: BAC
103:
104: CAC
105: ABA
106: ACA
107: ACB (slim-cut)
108:
109: BCA
110:
111:
112: ABC
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
Posted:
Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:20 pmby mister sour
Talked to a guy today who swears they go to 118
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
Posted:
Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:28 pmby keymaster1053
Hey CR,
I imagine you are just guestimating the angles of the cuts right? because the 0 is actually more like a -4 or -5. it's not flat across the key when no cut.
just FYI.
Jim.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:34 pmby keymaster1053
um, also CR by following your code legend there, the only key I believe you decoded correctly is the 112.
correct me if I'm wrong but here is what I see the keys as:
101=CAB
102=BAC
104=CAC
105=ABA
106=ACA
107=ACB
109=BCA
112=ABC
am I right?
Jim
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
Posted:
Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:42 pmby ChemicalRobot
keymaster1053 wrote:um, also CR by following your code legend there, the only key I believe you decoded correctly is the 112.
correct me if I'm wrong but here is what I see the keys as:
101=CAB
102=BAC
104=CAC
105=ABA
106=ACA
107=ACB
109=BCA
112=ABC
am I right?
Jim
Do'h - I'm not sure what happened but what I had posted wasn't what was in my final list. I had switched how I was doing the key mid-way (essentially backwards) but I must have forgotten to copy over from my local document. Should be updated now.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
Posted:
Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:56 pmby ChemicalRobot
A note from looking at the cuts:
No two of the same cuts are right next to eachother.If we say that this is significant, then that'd mean the key possibilities are:
- Code:
ABA, ABC, ACA, ACB, BAB, BAC, BCA, BCB, CAB, CAC, CBA, CBC
Twelve key combinations.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:54 pmby mister sour
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:08 pmby nhoj_yelbom
wonder if we can find abloy blanks like that? hmmm
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:29 pmby Riyame
Nope. They made these keys BEFORE S&G made their own keys. Pretty damned rare lol
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:19 pmby ChemicalRobot
Holy cow that's a cool key.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:50 amby mister sour
I was contacted by the BNSF Railway Police. Yes, They are real. Its illegal to own 105 keys because for some dumb reason, this major railway decided to use only 105 padlocks. So one 105 key, can potentially be used to derail a train at any juncture on the railway.
This is also true for 102 keys. Another major railway uses only 102 keyed padlocks. Its nice to know that any dangerous cargo and our lives are protected by only two keys.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:00 pmby mdc5150
Where do you pick up those locks? I've seen on ebay for around $50 a piece which seems steep for a collection lock but they look cool and I want one!
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:04 pmby mister sour
mdchurchill wrote:Where do you pick up those locks? I've seen on ebay for around $50 a piece which seems steep for a collection lock but they look cool and I want one!
thats where my collection started. A padlock with key in good condition sells from $75-$150 depending on the rarity of the key.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:08 pmby mech
did they take your locks and keys? dood that blows.
Re: Sargent & Greenleaf Rail Road Environmental Padlock Keys
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:09 pmby mdc5150
mister sour wrote:mdchurchill wrote:Where do you pick up those locks? I've seen on ebay for around $50 a piece which seems steep for a collection lock but they look cool and I want one!
thats where my collection started. A padlock with key in good condition sells from $75-$150 depending on the rarity of the key.
Considering then that the 102 key is supposedly illegal to own that explains the price here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2-EA-Sargen ... 193wt_1396
