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Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:21 pm
by Josephus
I have a question. All the best locks I have are from a locksmith in Canada. All the locks I have gutted from him have been saturated with security pins. Even rather short pins are spooled. The tiny ones feel like single serrations. The longer keypins are also spooled. Most have 10 spools or more in 7 chambers. Can get pretty tough when they snag on both shear lines. Is it normal to have so many?

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:31 pm
by GWiens2001
Josephus wrote:I have a question. All the best locks I have are from a locksmith in Canada. All the locks I have gutted from him have been saturated with security pins. Even rather short pins are spooled. The tiny ones feel like single serrations. The longer keypins are also spooled. Most have 10 spools or more in 7 chambers. Can get pretty tough when they snag on both shear lines. Is it normal to have so many?


As far as I know, it is rare to find one that has any security pins at all, let alone what you tell of. I'd like to trade for one of those, Josephus. ;)

Gordon

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:45 pm
by mister sour
I had a pinning kit with spools in it. Wish I hadnt sold it but id did! Oh well. Security pins in a lock like a Best, that has pretty tight tolerances, makes it feel like an American Lock. I have picked on some with security pins and they never false set on me. Never.

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:07 pm
by Riyame
Lab sells top serrated pins in 6B, 8B and 10B sizes I believe.

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:15 pm
by VancouverSpecial
Great thread fellahs!

Talking about security pins...

These are SFIC spools (I am assuming work for BEST?) - from CLK :
http://www.clksupplies.com/shop/lab-ic- ... -1984.html

Anyone know where you can get serrated pins for SFIC?

Cheers,
Sean

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:20 pm
by VancouverSpecial
Riyame wrote:Lab sells top serrated pins in 6B, 8B and 10B sizes I believe.


Hi Riyame,
Sorry for the noob question: To what do the sizes you mention refer? Is it pin diameter perhaps?

Sean

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:09 pm
by mister sour
Bitchin! I will pick up a few of both! Serrated and spooled... and then I will key up cylinders with them and make fun and secure locks!!! MUWAHAHA! I can see it now.... heavily serrated pin stacks pinned to MACS!

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:15 pm
by GWiens2001
As far as I know, there is no MACS with Best locks. You can pin them 0-9-0-9-0-9-0 all day long without key functionality being affected.

Gordon

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:51 am
by Riyame
GWiens2001 wrote:As far as I know, there is no MACS with Best locks. You can pin them 0-9-0-9-0-9-0 all day long without key functionality being affected.

Gordon


And thus the MACs are 9 ;)


VancouverSpecial71 wrote:
Riyame wrote:Lab sells top serrated pins in 6B, 8B and 10B sizes I believe.


Hi Riyame,
Sorry for the noob question: To what do the sizes you mention refer? Is it pin diameter perhaps?

Sean


In the A2 pinning system for SFIC those are top pin sizes. They are sized from 2B to 19B. Bottom pins are 0A to 9A

VancouverSpecial71 wrote:Great thread fellahs!

Talking about security pins...

These are SFIC spools (I am assuming work for BEST?) - from CLK :
http://www.clksupplies.com/shop/lab-ic- ... -1984.html

Anyone know where you can get serrated pins for SFIC?

Cheers,
Sean


Any locksmith supply dealer that has LAB pins should sell them.

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:07 am
by VancouverSpecial
Sweet - I get it! Thanks for the rundown Riyame. :)
Sean

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:58 pm
by mister sour
Control key works!

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Top Master key works!

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Now they all have a Master Operating key and each group has a control key. The ones I dumped, arent functioning properly. I must have messed up the controlpns somehow. I will dump em and repin em.

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Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:27 pm
by GWiens2001
Sour, nice job working out the keys. Are the different lock groups master keyed differently, or the same master key?

And yeah, we believe it is your daughter's doll in your work area. Of course we believe it. Uh-huh. Sure thing, sour. ;) ;) ;)

Gordon

Re: I want to MASTER BEST LOCKS!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:35 pm
by mister sour
GWiens2001 wrote:Sour, nice job working out the keys. Are the different lock groups master keyed differently, or the same master key?

Gordon

The separate groups may have had a sub master, but truthfully, I was only looking for the top master key. So I cant really say for sure.