Re: Medeco m3 "Bumping"
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huxleypig wrote:Quick one about the protec - it apparently does have a pick for it (not the decoder either).
Also, Escher, you say there's a pick for the Abloy Classic? I have one such 'pick' but it is next to useless unless you have decoded the lock already and know the key cuts. Do you know of a better one?
escher7 wrote:
If Xeo thinks Tobias code setting keys are cheating then I imagine a drill is really cheating.
One of these days some elite picker will defeat the Protec. The Classic has been beaten, although again, special tools are required. There was a day when Medeco was considered insurmountable.
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escher7 wrote:huxleypig wrote:Quick one about the protec - it apparently does have a pick for it (not the decoder either).
Also, Escher, you say there's a pick for the Abloy Classic? I have one such 'pick' but it is next to useless unless you have decoded the lock already and know the key cuts. Do you know of a better one?
I am sure we are talking about the same one, but apparently there is a big difference between the Chinese made model and the U.S. model - sloppy machining etc. I haven't got the URL at my finger tips but there is a good video online, along with some 3D breakdowns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1Mv9XHgms) of how it works. As I understand it, and I don't own the tool, but the reason the old Abloys can be picked is that the distance between disks is uniform. Thus the lines on the tool will guide you to the disks. Protecs if I am not mistaken randomize the distance so no one knows where the disks are. Like anything, it depends on practice and skill.
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escher7 wrote:Huxleypig:
Sorry about the wrong 3D.
As I mentioned, I don't own the tool so any comment is merely based on what I have read. I understand the issue of not disturbing the disc after it is set from working on disk detainer locks. Is it possible, if the tool is slim enough, that it is moved to a spacer before backing off? I am going to look for some of the Abloy videos I have seen to figure out how they do it as the Classic is on my list of to do's.
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