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Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:10 am
by mercurial
These pics are of a Chubb Definitive Patent lock.

The serial number dates it to 1901.

It is a double sided lock, but it and another identical lock of opposite handing somehow ended up used as safe locks at a bank in Western Australia.

The photos with levers removed are not the same lock as the other photos, but the only difference is the handing. Tape measure is in inches.

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...Mark

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:44 am
by ratlock
See what you mean@ huxlypig,never seen one like that. Great pictures

Great selection there from the german library,@MartinHewitt

Lovley old lock @mercurial.

Great to see some levers on show.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:55 am
by madsamurai
Wow, this is a great thread! Keep 'em coming!
S&G 6804: http://keypicking.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=12009
I also have a couple of mailbox locks (S&G and Corbin) I can take some pics of if that's of interest.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:22 pm
by ratlock
If its levers Im interested.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:46 am
by ratlock
Chubb 3 G 114

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Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:42 pm
by GWiens2001
Ingersoll Impregnable

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Shackle and retainer plate

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Inside the plug with the side bar flipped up

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Drive cam and spring

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Side bar and pivot pin for side bar

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The ten levers

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Gordon

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:03 am
by ratlock
Im glad of the Ingersoll pictures, Thanks. Im struggling to pick one that arrived off ebay last week. Now I can get my head round whats moving around inside. Thanks for sharing

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:03 am
by GWiens2001
ratlock wrote:Im glad of the Ingersoll pictures, Thanks. Im struggling to pick one that arrived off ebay last week. Now I can get my head round whats moving around inside. Thanks for sharing


You can look at the teardown for more info.

Gordon

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:19 am
by capt-dunc
the article on picking the ingersoll is currently online, in posted the link at the end of teardown thread mentioned above

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:02 pm
by MartinHewitt
That is the Willenhall CT12 from the What have you/I picked today thread. It has just three of the possible five lever types.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:07 pm
by MartinHewitt
That is a Sargent & Greenleaf 4110 deposit lock. There are also similar locks with two keys for bank and renter. The lock is changeable to a new key. For this a screw at the back must be loosened. This might also be a lock to try after picking a 6804, but this one needs a wire pick.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:28 pm
by ratlock
good to see your safe lock picked.

Here is what it looks like in a "Butters " system lock. It was/is the fore runner of many designs, where you can tension the bolt, till the cows come home, and not feel any torque or binding on the levers.

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Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:39 pm
by MartinHewitt
It looks rather simple. How does this work? Is the patent available?

PS: This might be the patent: https://www.google.com/patents/US3060716

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:17 pm
by madsamurai
MartinHewitt wrote:That is a Sargent & Greenleaf 4110 deposit lock.

The levers and post assembly in that look exactly like the ones in the 6804... wonder if they're the same or a different size. Looks like it's pretty much the same lock with a curtain and fewer levers.

Re: Lever locks gutted

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:51 pm
by MartinHewitt
From the middle of the straight edge bellow the spring to the middle of the straight edge at the bottom the 4110 levers measure 22.7mm. A lever weights 3.50g. Does that sound familiar?